Alien List[edit]

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Chaoshi (talk) 02:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I have a list of confirmed aliens from the game producers. I'll put it on now. You can delete it if you have to, but I know they are the actual aliens from the game.

Hacker: MHM 17:16, 2 September 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.242.250 (talk)

It's not that I don't believe that the aliens will be in the game. I just don't think they should be mentioned. Lists of aliens, bad guys, and levels always clutter the Ben 10 video game pages, and make them look like guides rather than encyclopedic pages.Chaoshi (talk) 23:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Dude read the bottom of the page it's a stub that means any and all information on the subject is welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.93.124 (talk) 13:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

No need to be rude, and I meant a 'game' guide. Whenever a character list is written for a Ben 10 game article, it doesn't stop at just aliens. I feels the need to include areas, enemies, how to do what, and so on. I think it's better just better to mention their appearances on the character page. Nothing too long, just brief descriptions. I'd talk about it on the talk page there, but nobody ever goes there.

Second of all, there is such a thing as cluttering the page. Case in point, the plot section of the page. Even Wikipedia agrees that it is long and convoluted. We shouldn't be adding to the problem. Chaoshi (talk) 05:58, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

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No, dude, wiki doesn't. What you do to it is spam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.57.80.71 (talk) 22:20, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

First off, what I am doing is not spam. Vandalism is the word your looking for (Which I am not doing.) Second, Wikipedia does say that the article is too long. If you look in the plot section, you'll see a bar that says, and I quote, 'This article's plot summary may be too long or overly detailed. Please help improve it by removing unnecessary details and making it more concise.'

I think you have the right mindset in trying to add more information to the page, but you need to find a way to tactfully implement your information without making the page too long. Instead of arguing with me, it would be much more productive to work together and find a way to add concise information to the page. Chaoshi (talk) 23:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Alien List, Bosses, and cheats if available, that is all I, ask, great destroyer of Ben 10 Video Game Pages. Please allow that for All of the Ben 10 Video game pages! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I've added the videogame appearances for each character in the character page. Cheat codes aren't allowed on Wikipedia. It's unnecessary information. Chaoshi (talk) 05:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Good enough, I have other sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 22:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I take that back, actually, it isn't good enough. Look at the top of the page, all of the Ben 10 video game pages! Stubs! All because you delete things that shouldn't be deleted! The battle is on! Try and stop me, but I will come back after you delete what I put in! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 19:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Well then add stuff that other video game pages have, like ratings, development, and reception. Also, it you want to add more to a plot, keep it simple, don't mention every little thing. If you do enough research, I'm sure you can find these things. Chaoshi (talk) 20:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Give me one good reason to not put alien lists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 20:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

One, it's already on the character page. Two, if a reader is still curious about these aliens, he can go to the official website, who's link is provided.

You seem really temperamental when it comes to this. The battle is on? Are you aware of where you are? This is a talk page online encyclopedia, not a forum. You seem to be the only person who has a problem with the setup of the page. None of the other established users have said anything about what I've done. Why are you so fixated on this? Chaoshi (talk) 20:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, I am not too sure. But I am still going to put in an alien list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 21:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, it would be much easier for the veiwer to be able to see the information list. Also, if you are willing to help me, Chaoshi, the Rise of Hex page is in need of information. It is the biggest stub I've seen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 21:34, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

You can't stop me! Oh, and just so you know, 96.253.86.132 is my laptop. But still I will come back every time you delete an alien list!

Well if your going to do that, at least put it in a table. That way it'll at least look professional...Chaoshi (talk) 16:51, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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Sure, just tell me how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 22:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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First, I just want to know out of curiosity, why do want this list anyway? Why wasn't the inclusion on the character page not enough? You never told me why you think there should be a list here. Is it for the people who look at this page? Because as I said earlier, they can look at the character page, or the website. Is it to improve the page? Because there are a lot more important things that this page needs, such as a trimmed plot, a bigger gameplay section, reveiws, and development information. Instead of telling me any of your motivations, you've acted in a way that tells me you just want the list 'just because'. As I said before, you are the only one who has a problem with this, so we're stuck in a stalemate of conflicting edits. Unless you can get some users to come to the talk page and agree with you, the only way we can get what we want is if we convince the other person that what we want is best. That is the argument we should have been having in the first place. Instead, you've been telling me add the list because removing ruins the article, while failing to to give me a good reason why.

An alien list alone isn't going to save those pages from being stubs. More information is about the game is needed to make the page a full fledged article.

See what I just did? I made an argument, and I forified it with a reason why I think the argument is valid. Elementary school stuff. Now you try.

So now that you know how to make a valid argument, tell me why you think this list, in addition to what I've put on the character page, is good for the page. If you can convince me, I will personally put the list on the page. And please try to be mature about this. Chaoshi (talk) 23:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I believe it would improve the page, and make it easier for veiwers. You are right, it will not save it from a stub. But it will save time for viewers,not having to go to a seperate page. I also agree that other things should be added, but I know alien lists better than other things. I will help with other things if you help me with the alien list. We should also work on rise of hex(super stub). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.253.86.132 (talk) 00:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)